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Attraction is based on a very superficial level of expectations. The attraction thoughts by both genders when contemplating a dating, followed by marriage relationship are often primary four areas:
In the counterfeit of currency, the policing investigators that look for currency fraud are taught explicitly the fine details in official currency. Someone without knowledge on currency fraud might think investigators would be taught what are the frauds in a currency to look for such as missing a specific detail. Contrarily, by the investigator studying every single fine detail of official currency then when looking at a fraudulent currency, the investigator will notice what is missing. The Christian, by studying what God expects in a relationship and marriage, then the problems can be easily seen and avoided for God's Glory and the relationship's best success. |
Additionally, regarding both men and women who have poor or absent father and
mother figures, there is sometimes difficulty in knowing what qualities
to look for in a relationship that can lead to a fulfilling and
rewarding marriage. There are sometimes Internet Podcasts, on
relationships, that try to warn women that men with Machiavellian or
sociopath traits against women can stir up emotions of attractions that
are destined for problems. Men that manipulate women with their
Machiavellian or sociopath traits are sometimes labeled as being toxic. Toxic men, as they grow older will become aware that their toxic behavior often can attract some women's attention and interest. A good Godly man, who becomes married to a woman with attraction to toxic men, will have a very difficult time in being the husband that God intended because this is not what his wife is attracted for her marriage partner and for sexual fulfillment. |
In times that have past, the only way to meet someone was through church, family, friends, job or casual contact through everyday activities. One method that was very popular, before the internet, was go to night clubs for dancing, pubs or taverns. Now with the Internet, there is a vast virtual world of opportunities. This topic is about perceptions, misunderstandings, deception and tips for best success as a Christian in dating.
When interviewing people, individually and under
anonymity, that are in the twilight periods of their lives concerning their
marriages, some startling conclusions have been learned.
With very few
exceptions, everyone states that they ended up not being with the person they
originally wanted to be with for the rest of their life. These people were not
stating that they were not happy in their marriage but
wished an older
relationship had continued with the belief they would have been happier with a
better life. Therefore, it is very important to:
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Read the topic "60 Year Love Story" for a heartwarming story that sometimes God brings back the "Love of Your Life".
Note that I was married for 24 years, which I ended for Biblical reasons where I gave her many chances to fix some problems that are not permitted in a marriage or relationship. After divorcing, she tried for many years to get me back, even after my remarriage, where I have never been revengeful, in fact very kind on handling everything. I am now a very happily married man, and have seen God work for my benefit through all of my relationship experiences of youth through now where some were painful blessings.
The information contained in this topic was gained from a great deal of research,
experiences using dating apps/sites and being single for over six years with
five devoted relationships during those years before getting married for the
second time. This topic should hopefully help anyone of any
age and gender.
Exclusion: There has been an addition to cultural dating
approaches, which is exercised by many young people (not all). It
is something of a carefree and no responsibility openness (that includes
sex) which many young people re-introduced around the mid 2000s that was
similar to the 1960's
hippie
era.
The approach is young people are to go out in groups to take away the stress of actually dating where if a young man and a young woman are interested in one another, then they may separate later from the group at some point to pursue anything where it is understood to not have any commitments, responsibilities or stigmas of rejections. Obviously, this absolutely leads to hurt feelings, regrets and worse which has the same problems that occur as discussed in the topic on affairs. This topic does not discuss this type of dating and presumes the reader of this topic is a Christian trying to live up to higher standards based on the scriptures with guidance of the Holy Spirit. |
Unfortunately, the dating site/app experience because of it being a virtual world, has its share of those seeking companionship for the wrong reasons such as:
Regardless of your age and history of relationships, an awesome prerequisite to the dating world is Dr. James Dobson's book "Love Must Be Tough" which gives extremely valuable information on having a successful relationship. Dobson's book is written for those who are going through a crisis in their relationship but all of us will eventually face this in our lifetime as divorce statistics continue to rise higher and higher. There are valuable tips in Dobson's book on understanding attraction.
Here are three other great topics to read that may be helpful before continuing with the Dating Sites Topic:
Jesus Christ warned us:
2 Timothy 3: | 1 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. 6 For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, 7 always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. 9 But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. |
Women are particularly vulnerable on dating sites to be manipulated for the wrong reasons to lead into 2 Timothy 3:6. Men can fall as detailed in verses 8 through 9.
Item |
Description |
Notes |
1 |
Photos should be current and recent
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Men are visual oriented, and they will decide very quickly if a woman is someone who they could eventually see themselves being intimate, which is usually one of first consideration a man uses in his checklist of selecting a woman to contact. |
2 |
Photos should include other friends showing you having a good time. |
Men want to be with a woman who is fun to be with, where initial proof is her having fun with others. |
3 |
Photos should show you in a formal dress. |
Men are attracted to a woman who knows how to look beautiful in a formal dress. |
4 |
Photos must have you standing up in some sort of vacation location or engaging in conversation with others. |
A classic mistake of women is not showing their whole figure which leads to a man being surprised, potentially in the wrong way, when meeting. |
5 |
Photos have to reflect who you are now not what you use to be.
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Inevitably, you will meet the man that you
have connected with on the dating site/app and a man will
most likely
reject you within moments of meeting you if you do not reflect the woman
he had imagined in his mind. He may stay and be polite and talk with
you as a recognizance mission on improving his dating communication
skills. |
6 |
Take the initiative to send an introductory email to a good candidate profile. Click [yes] or swipe "interested" on a profile. |
Many women tend to get frustrated in the process because of profiles of men that turn out not to be what was advertised. You cannot give up. |
7 |
Do not spend weeks having conversation through the dating site/app in the hopes of learning more about the man or getting him to have a connection with you before meeting. | Nothing guarantees chemistry. Men are goal oriented and will become frustrated with delays in meeting. Trying/hoping to get a man to develop a connection with you, that does not involve visual confirmation, has a high possibility of not working for a man. Meet him sooner vs. later. |
8 |
If you have children still at home, have pets, take care of aging
parents? Mention them in your profile. |
A man will soon know that he is potentially going to be involved in their lives so do not blind side him. Initially, during dating, it may not be an issue but in considering marriage, he will realize that it is part of the package deal concerning you. He may have the same situation. |
9 |
Stop looking for a man to complete you. You may have impossible expectations where you need to relax your must have list of a man's attributes. There are men that are great candidates who may have some inconsequential areas that do not appeal to you. |
No man is going to complete you. What you should be after is
Christ centered, compatibility and attraction. Relaxing your must
have or must not have list means something like: he has kids, has
tattoos, smokes, lives more than 25 miles away, not in great physical
shape, thinning hair, not a specific height, or his age is older. |
10 |
Because men are goal and accomplishment based, your correspondence should be reasonably timely. Men will think that "no response" means you are not interested and if your response is days later, then men will often think they are a second choice over another candidate. |
If you struggle in this area of making "small talk" in
correspondence, then get help from
friends. The man is not going to expect a long "pen-pal" response.
Always answer ALL of his questions and pose one or more of your own
questions at the end of your replies. Men will
interpret questions as positive just like you would. |
11 |
If a man starts asking generalized questions about your finances during
the dating process such as: (1) do you own your
home or (2) how much you make a year; do not
take offense on these questions. |
Generally, this can be considered offensive for a woman and you may think that he is getting too personal on his questions during dating. On the contrary, this often means he is thinking about the future and because men are problem solvers, he wants to make sure financial issues are taken care as the head of a household in a future relationship scenario. |
12 |
To reinforce the point of timely correspondence/communications, if you do not reply in reasonable time then the good men will simply find someone else to chat with because he will assume you aren't interested or he is your second choice. |
For analogy purposes, if your boss (man/woman it doesn't matter the
gender) sent you an email and
you didn't reply for days then what would you expect your boss to
think of you?
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13 |
Men often get frustrated that the contact correspondence does not move fast enough because when a woman replies "interested" then her future correspondence should be timely but often is not. Remember that men are goal driven as God made them that way, so men want to accomplish goals which means be in a dating relationship. |
Men will often feel like they just need to make something happen and
will contact other women just so they can feel like something is being
accomplished. They will get further frustration when they realize
they are potentially in a position where they truly are not interested
in a woman but fell into their own trap of settling on someone to try to
get something going.
Inadvertently, women often can cause other women problems by not being
timely. |
14 |
Women often believe that after a first meeting or after a few dates,
that a man who appeared to be interested can take more than three days
to call back. This is usually a bad indication of lack of
interest. |
If a man is truly interested in a woman, then he will initiate communications the next day after the first date and will make plans to see the woman as soon as possible. If he is not able, then he will let you know reasons why and set up long range plans to see the woman. After a few dates, He will also be vigilant in keeping in contact. If more than 3 days goes by then that is a bad indication of lack of interest, or, also a bad sign of someone who most likely is not good at communications. |
15 |
Women can sometimes be attracted to "bad boy" types or the
type of man who plays hard
to get, looks like he is wealthy, acts tough. |
A good man does not need to act tough, be ostentatious or play hard to get. When getting to know the man, if he doesn't have a lot of male friends then this can be a bad sign "red flag". If his parents are alive and the parents are dysfunctional, then there is the potential for him having issues on not knowing how to have a good relationship because of bad examples with his parents. More on this later in this topic webpage. |
If you do not have suitable photos in the above items, get a friend to take them for you. Yes, you can stage the photos. Selfies are No-No(s).
Item |
Description |
Notes |
1 |
Photos should be current and recent |
Women are partially visual where attraction is a starting place on qualifying the man and the man needs/must reflect confidence, financial success and happiness without arrogance and pretentiousness. |
2 |
No shirtless photos unless they are
required such as a scuba photo or an action photo playing on a beach
with others. |
This is a classic mistake of men who want to show they have a desirable physique. Women, while they do operate on attraction initially, they are not attracted to arrogant men which is the connotation when showing a shirtless photo in the gym, no matter how great the physique appears. |
3 |
No photos of you sitting in your car parked
unless it is a photo of you about to race your car at the speedway or it
is about a vacation. |
This is similar to item 2. Vanity is not attractive to women. Women are not fooled into thinking you are successful or desirable because of your vehicle. For example, if it is important to show a great truck for boating purposes, then show it in a minor way as part of an action photo such as standing in the boat holding up water skiing gear. |
4 |
Show vacation photos of you having a good time and preferably at a touristy place. |
Your vacation photos should be with others and preferably other men which shows you are liked. |
5 |
Show a photo of you in a sport jacket, suit
or tuxedo. |
Women want to be with a man who knows how to dress up just like men want to be with a woman who knows how to look beautiful in a formal dress. |
6 |
Your written profile must reflect who you
truly are and your financial status without pretentiousness. |
The #1 need of a woman in a relationship is security which means being with a man who can provide that to her. The scale of financial success is different for each woman and it will avoid embarrassment and disappointment if you just reflect your true self. |
7 |
If a woman replies to your email or positively to your profile, do not
immediately ask to meet her on the same day. Your email
should not be perceived as pressuring where a question to meet is only
suggestive. |
Unlike men, who can get ready for a social event very quickly, a woman may want to schedule getting her hair done, nails done, a new outfit or even a tanning session. Women perceive that meeting is a potential man is the start of something long lasting where she will want to make the best impression. |
8 |
Women are not to be considered flavors of the month. This should not require any explanation! Unfortunately, many women are worried and perceive men are seeking dating experiences for the wrong reasons. Your actions should be Godly and reflect a Christian. Women, generally speaking are better at judging a man's character than men are judging a woman's character. |
This is a pitfall that will leave you dissatisfied, disappointed and
potentially judged by God, falling out of His Mercy when we are not
acting in His perfect Will. It is okay to date casually to learn about someone but not in a fashion or pattern of carnal conquest. |
9 |
Women often will struggle in the area of initial correspondence because they don't know you and their way of handling "small talk" with a man is difficult until they have a common point of interest and emotional connection. God made women to use emotions in a far superior way than men and their thinking process is often based through this emotion. | Always make your initial correspondence SHORT and to the point. Share some detail about you that will develop an emotional connection. End your email, text or chat window through the Dating Site interface with a question so that she can reply back with an answer. If you do not ask a question, she may not reply and she will also potentially interpret you as not being interested. |
10 |
Women, in most cases, just are not going to be timely in communications
in the manner you would expect. |
Be PATIENT! One friend of this author waited 3 weeks before she replied. Jokingly, because she was asking for advice from me, I finally said if you don't reply to him then I will do it for you. She did reply, met and ended up falling in love. Her initial problem was she was insecure about her looks, didn't know if she could talk to him when they met and was afraid of getting her heart broken again. |
11 |
Women often will get to the point of total frustration on not
understanding men and why they do things where their rules of attraction
are different and are based more on emotions. You need to be slow
in your dating progress to avoid costly pain in her emotions. |
Because men are goal oriented, they can often and quickly move on to
another relationship not realizing the
peripheral damage to the women which is sinful. This
is similar to #7 above.
Your actions may cause difficulties for the next man who will have to work
through the problems in her life that were caused by you. You do
not want to potentially judged by God, falling out of
His Mercy because of carnal actions. |
12 |
A very important aspect of communication, in your initial
correspondence, is to NOT come off as a problem solver. Your
sentences need to be about pleasantries and positive comments. |
An example of a do NOT do: "I like to water ski. It is okay if you don't like to water ski as you can stay in the boat." Two problems: (1) you just said water skiing is very important to you and (2) you want her to stay in the boat. The short and positive way to talk about it is "It is fun sometimes to go out on the lake and maybe water ski. Do you like being on the water?" |
13 |
Do NOT talk about sex in any shape or form until very far down the road
into a relationship and then only for purposes that are about
understanding her needs, not yours.
Women are built by God to understand more about a man's needs then men are to understand a woman's needs. |
Women are offended very easily by the discussion because it equates to many wrong and negative connotations. A woman can feel that the man is solely interested in her for sexual gratification or he will be judging her on her sexual attractiveness, sexual abilities or sexual appetite. This is absolutely wrong for a man to have as a goal. The number one need for a man is respect from a woman and by inappropriate discussions can cause a woman to disrespect the man. |
14 |
Men need to understand that women do not use logic in the same way as
men which can cause problems. Consider these two scenarios: (1) Generally speaking men can often instantaneously reply to the question "Where is north?" and can point exactly where it is and men understand spatial dimensions where women generally do not. (2) men generally speaking, do not drive their car into an adjacent lane when there is another vehicle fast approaching in that lane because that would cause the other vehicle to have to apply breaks (bad road etiquette). Women, generally speaking, often are not cognizant of compass directions and spatial dimensions unless they work on it. |
Men need to realize that, generally speaking, women are far superior to men in the areas of detecting and reading another man or woman's emotions and body language. Men can be completely clueless in this area. An example is a woman can instantly know when a man is having a bad day even though the man thought he gave zero clues. The point is men need to work on being more perceptive, keen on listening carefully and explain their thoughts more clearly so that a woman doesn't misunderstand or jump to wrong conclusions about you. If you do not believe this, consider the rhetorical question on why men are more attracted to movies that are about valor and conquest and women more attracted to movies of romance, conversation and passion? |
If you do not have suitable photos in the above items, get a friend to take them for you. Yes, you can stage the photos. Selfies are No-No(s).
At some point, maybe in a counseling environment with a Pastor or a trained professional, it may be necessary to discuss sexual needs / desires. The books and movies, such as 50 Shades of Grey which captured/intrigued women's fantasies and imagination, is an indicator that some expectations can hurt or even destroy a relationship. What may appear as inconsequential, may need to be discussed and compromises reached or even an end to the dating relationship.
There is an old axiom,
"Women enter a relationship with the desire to change
a man but he doesn't change. Men enter a relationship with the desire
that the woman never changes but she does."
(a) There is a lot of truth
that can be observed in this axiom. Women need to realize that men
tend to not change, and you will not be able to necessarily make him like the
things you do and act a different way just because you are in committed
relationship such as marriage.
(b) Men need to realize that women
often feel that they must act one way during the dating period but feel it
is not required after entering into a marriage. The solution is a lot
of talk and mutual understanding needs to happen. Read this
very poignant short topic excerpt from a news article on
Dave and Ann Wilson.
(c) The real truth is both men and women tend to change the way they act
after getting into a committed relationship.
(c.1) Men tend to start treating their spouse as a one of
their male best friends, where being romantic becomes very less and less.
(c.2) Women tend to start giving over financial burdens and
concerns to their spouse, ignoring important budgeting principles.
Additionally, women often try take
over governing the free time of the spouse.
(c.3) For more answers on relationship needs based on gender
and the peculiarities, read
Roles in a Relationship.
It may come to the point in the short or long term of a dating relationship to end it. These are the three primary scenarios and how to end the possibility of dating or the dating relationship:
Some generalized thoughts regarding ending any type of relationship that falls in the categories of #1 and #2:
What to possibly say on ending a relationship in a text or email:
One of the best ways of handling the message is to write "I am realizing that I am not right for you and it is not fair to you. You deserve someone much better than me that will meet all of your desires and needs. I have enjoyed seeing you and I wish you the absolute best in your pursuit of finding your best relationship match." By using these words and this approach, you are taking the blame and are not saying anything negative towards the other person. After sending this text or email, then refrain from any more communications of any kind. Doing this is counter intuitive but actually is the kindest approach as pointed out above in the four bullet points.
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This section is hopefully helpful when taking a look at the pursuit of a lasting relationship in life, to remove wrong choices made and wrong ideas held at different ages. As stated throughout this topic and additionally, it is unfortunate:
From three funny Internet Postings that have some clever advice that
may be helpful. This is for helping young women: "To all the young women, go for the nerdy ones (young men) as they end up being successful, will become handsome and treat their wives with high regard and value. This is sage advice from us older women." Funny posted video that is geared toward helping young men, with a trailer at the end of the video for women: Hot Crazy Matrix video {Author's note. This video is meant as entertainment (PG 13) and makes many general assumptions. There is an initial premise of women not changing which is absolutely not true, but the speaker does correct this later in his short comical presentation.} Finally, understanding how to guarantee tranquility in a marriage, an older man is talking to a newlywed couple and giving the young man the following wisdom: "You need to understand that everything your wife owns is hers, (a dramatic pause) and everything you own is hers." |
For helping women:
Concerning women and men's problems:
Unfortunately, there is a well-known problem,
which young and middle-life men speak candidly with their best male friends
and this is often illustrated in TV shows along with movies. It
is an extreme
lack of sexual fulfillment in their marriages where they wonder if other men are experiencing
the same problem.
Young and middle age men will state that their sexual lives began great in early parts of the marriage and then became almost non-existent because their wives are constantly not interested in having sex. It doesn't matter if the husband and wife are attractive and a great affectionate lover as a factor of why this occurs. Husbands get to the point of no longer trying to initiate and asking, where the consequence is the man doing solitary self-fulfilling sexual gratification that involves his imagination with the possibility of pornography and even affairs. The wives then interpret their husband no longer initiating and asking to mean they do not love them, and this leads to the wife also doing self-fulfilling sexual gratification and sometimes affairs. God gave women the gift of enhanced emotional thought processes, where the negative aspect with this gift is wives will try to assign blame of a poor or absent sexual fulfilling marriage on their husband. Of course there are all types of scenarios, but the overwhelming cause of the problem, according to research recourses, is usually the wives. On the rare side of problems, if a wife gets no response from her initiating then there is a possibility that her husband has found other choices for his sexual needs that has replaced his wife, which should be an alarm warning for the wife to consider. A wife can state that it cannot be their fault if there is no desire because of hormonal imbalances, stress and lack of sleep, but older women will state that the problem was her own lack of balance and planning, routine exercise, eating correctly. Older women realized that whenever they did have sexual experiences in the past, when there was no initial desire, the desire did come after foreplay that the younger wife should have realized on a routine basis. One of this author's best friends stated to me at age 35 that he can't figure it out. If his wife would just have sex routinely, then she could have absolutely everything she ever want that he could provide. This same friend is now 62 years old, and after numerous health problems, is unable to have sex anymore and he says his wife now wants to have sex almost daily with little hints of hope routinely given that involves his service without reciprocation as it can't be received, where he says it just makes him angry and he can't say anything. He also believes she is now having an affair. |
Concerning men:
Concerning Old Age, considered the Twilight Years:
One day at the lunch room of an old age retirement community, a new man sat down
at a table with several other men and women.
One of the ladies looked at this new man and asked who he is, how old and where did he come from. The new man said: "Well, my name is Fred. I am 80 years old and just got out of prison yesterday." The woman, with a little bit of stress and fear in her voice, then asked what was he in prison for? Fred then answered: "I was in prison for killing my wife." The woman, with happy excitement then said: "Good that means you are single." Fred then waits for a moment, with shock and excitement, and then says: "Yes I am." |
Hopefully all of these points will bring a serious evaluation of one's choices at every age. God is there for all of us, but when we act inappropriately in sinful ways that involve selfishness and short-sidedness then we can reap life-long consequences, which we cannot blame God and God expects us to fulfill our commitments to our spouses.
What to read next?
Marriage and the needs of the man and woman. Consequences of Adultery, Cheating & Affairs, Recovering from Divorce & Relational Breakups, Hope for an old relationship from the past: 60 Year Love Story